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're going to hit the roof and see how much more money they're paying to the government and how much less in their wallet to spend at that store they love so much. so the real-- this is a precursor to the real nasty stuff that happens after january 1st if we don't get a deal that keeps taxes low forever. >> to susan's point, if the people stop spending and so alarmed about this, they're going to be marching on congress to get a deal done, aren't they? >> we need a deal done, i think we all agree, we need a deal done. >> brenda: okay, that's, we're not going to go there right now. we've got to talk about the fact that right now, we do have about a week more to do a deal, but consumers are pulling ck, confidence is low. gary b? >> well, absolutely. and the only way the consumer is going to get ou and spend, it's a double-edged sword. when i went around the fall, the only stores doing limited 2 where it was 50% off everything. limited 2 can't make money at 50% off everything. the markup is normally, a keystone markup or 100% to give away 50% they're giving away their profits, so if that's th
for circumstances when the government searches through its database of captured communications looking for information on individual american citizens. otherwise, by means of these so-called backdoor searches, the government may conduct significant warrantless surveillance of american persons. i believe this current practice is inconsistent with core fourth amendment privacy protections and needs to be reformed. during consideration of fisa in the judiciary committee, senator durbin and i introduced a bipartisan amendment to address this very problem. the language of our amendment is identical to that offered by senators wyden and udall during consideration of fisa by the select committee on intelligence. the amendment clarifies that section 702 does not permit the government to search its data base of fisa materials to identify communications of a particular united states person. in effect, it would require the government to obtain a warrant before performing such queries involving an american person's communications. the amendment is limited in scope. it excludes from the warrant req
love this, as opposed to letting the government do it. we he don't need the government to do this. this is what americans can do. stuart: you've got the last word on me there, mark lanier, very good, very good. you walk away from your 227 million, mark, have a wonderful new year. >> thank you. stuart: a massive storm, serious stuff here, big storms through the u.s., high winds, snow, everybody came down and stranding a lot of travelers across the country and dumping inches of snow in some cities, actually feet in some areas. roadways in the northeast covered with snow, again, two feet of snow in some areas. big delays in a lot of airports. big headaches for holiday travelers, that storm is blamed for the at least six deaths. if congress and the president can't come up with a plan and we dive on that fiscal cliff, look what would happen to the average federal taxpayers, the average taxpayer is roughly 50,000 bucks a year and that person would pay a extra, 1238 per year in taxes. in fact, every taxpayer would pay more if we go over that cliff. clearly, that would be a hit to the ove
a social security, medicare, medicaid. that is not the only entitlements. every government program that has a retirement benefit, a health-care benefit, those are entitlements, two, up to and including the entitlements for the congressman. let's be fair. when they start talking about entitlements and hold it to those three items, let's hold their feet to the fire and make them talk about entitlements for the other folks, too. host: appreciate you calling this morning. donna writes about this on twitter. if that to facebook here. -- back to you facebook here. budget showdown hits the keep week. that is of the front page reminding us of the deadline looming. it is a bloomberg story here out of the district. i you can watch the byplay here on the c-span that works with the president heading back to town tonight. the senate and house are due back tomorrow. billy from jacksonville, florida, to life for waiting. caller: i am very optimistic but i worry that the president will not get a chance because lindsey gramm already stated he will fight. i think there will already be another big fight for t
and a bill to continue the controversial domestic surveillance program. then, will the government -- of nerve north carolina pardon the wilmington 10? >> it is not a secret an injustice has been done. now, governor perdue has an opportunity to right the wrong. we cannot go back to 1980. this is 2012. >> the north carolina governor is being urged to pardon a group of civil rights activists were falsely convicted and imprisoned 40 years ago for the firebombing of a white owned grocery store. the conviction was overturned in 1980, but the state has never pardon them. we will speak with one of the wilmington 10 who served eight years behind bars and it became head of the naacp. all of that and more coming up. this is "democracy now!," democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. president obama is set to meet with congressional leaders at the white house just three days before a year in deadline to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. some $600 billion in automatic spending cuts and tax increases will take effect if no agreement is reached. obama and the rest of republicans remain of
of paying for college has shifted from the federal and state governments to the families. the only type of financial aid that has elasticity is the loans. stafford loans have limits. parent + loans have no aggregate limit. it has nothing to do with the family's ability to repay the debt. the second aspect is the students and parents are chasing the dream, and they will sign whatever piece of paper is put in front of them without paying attention to the details. they figure they will figure out how to deal with it after they graduate. there are ways to reduce your debt such as attending and in state public college or a college with generous financial aid policies. that is one of the most effective ways to do that. once you're on campus, you can buy cheaper textbooks and sell them back to the bookstore. but that does not do as much as just going to a less expensive college. >> is the chasing the dream aspect something that in previous generations was possible and able to figure out after work, or is it in knowledge gap in terms of things have changed? why is it more of a problem now, or i
wrong, did not mislead, did not misrepresent, i dithe best with information united states government had at thete time. >lou: here's what ambassador rie did say five days after onl benghazi. >> the best information we have today is this was not a pre-planned, premeditated attack.th what happened initially was a spontaneous action to what had just transpired in cairo as a consequence of the video. lou: she said nobody is blameless. joining us now, fox news middlen east analyst. it is great to have you with us. your reaction first to her claim she did not misrepresent, did not lie about what happened in benghazi. >> she may be mistaking the version of national security given to her is well defined in the sense she said what she had to say, she did not commit a lie with the american public knowing it did, but on the other handinw there was an assessment made in washington prior to that the next few hours clearly this was a terrorist attack by armed people. in between those two there's a political decision not to tell the truth as to what happened for political reasons. that is something the
bit of fear into these people. it just shows the control the wealthy have over the government in both parties. host: more from "the washington post." they write -- back to the telephones. derrick from maryland on the line for democrats. your thoughts about the fiscal clause bill. caller: i think they will do a good deal if they can keep mitch mcconnell out of there. one of the things i really have a problem with, that is when thing i say democrats, let's get the ground game for 2014. republicansd of the at enter the house. let's take the house and just ran it all down their throats. host: we will move onto glen on the line for independents. caller: here is the problem that we have a. we have people that are working hard for the american people. we have a constitution. we have deviated from the constitution. host: who are the people working hard for the american people? caller: the american citizens. it takes two american citizens -- your mother and father have to be american citizens to be the president of the united states. we need to have a confirmation hearing. on the birth certifi
and the government's failings in the war in thoroanistan. ...n w well-known face for c-span viewers mary frances berry professor at the university of pennsylvania also of the author of several books. we're at the university of pennsylvania to talk to her about and justice for all. the united states commission on civil rights in the continuing struggle for freedom in america quote. when did this all rights commission begin? >> 1957. president eisenhower had a lot of discussion with john foster dulles the secretary of state because of the races around the world people would hear about and read about and the fact there seemed to be episodes whether lynching or discrimination in the country. eisenhower said he would ask congress to set up a civil-rights commission to put the facts on the table and i am told by someone at the meeting he slammed the table and they will put the facts on the table. policy is sometimes said up because there is a tough problem is that the report then they go away but in the future would depend on what it found out and how aggressive it was in the public thought about it.
can move forward? >> well, first of all, we have to be able to govern. we have to have an adult conversation, getting people in the room who actually want to solve this problem. and i think it's very important to step back and see the fact that we have already -- there are three parts of this deficit reduction stool. we've already in the past two years passed $1.6 trillion in spending cuts. we've passed over $700 billion in savings in medicare through reforms like cutting back on overpayments to insurance companies. the one piece of this puzzle that we've not been able to get any support for is making sure that the wealthiest among us help solve this problem by being willing to pay a little bit more to be part of the solution. so we have sent a bill to the house back in july, bipartisan bill that says what -- everybody says they don't want middle-class families to have their taxes go up, well, fine. why don't we start with something we can agree on, which is that? and just pass that. why doesn't the house just pass that? but as we know, the speaker couldn't even pass his own pla
will govern more in the mode of his first two years when he was governor of massachusetts? they uniformly said they'd be disappointed and in fact labrador one of the stars of the tea party featured in my book said there would be an insurrection. people say we have been really boisterous. you have seen nothing yet. if president romney behaves like a conservative it's going to be the death of the republican party. >> i am just going to let that sit there for a second and let that sink right in. [laughter] let's come back to the leadership. i want to ask you specifically as individuals and as a threesome that way they do or do not work well together, boehner cantor and mccarthy. characterize each one in shorthand beginning with speaker boehner. >> john boehner is a washington lifer and was not the obvious choice to be leading this sort of tea party crafts. nonetheless you can see the tea party phenomenon for the trade -- freight train that it was an elected to be on the train rather than underneath it. speaker boehner campaigned heavily for a number of the tea party freshman andy also you know be
basic expansion of knowledge through a government funded entity like nasa -- is that the way we should go? my personal feeling is there is a tremendous value over time that has come close from demand i do believe robotics will be on the time scale of the next 20 years as -- or so. probably as they make predictions, which is always hard. it will have more economic impact on how we were driving our cars and fly our planes and how research is being performed. it is my belief if you go through 30 or more years, that prediction will be a lot tougher to make. want to put the human in the loop and go to places where you do not know where you are going, and two exploration the help of sun cover aspects of our experience and did all aspects of technology that will have tremendous impact. even though they examples you mention are compelling, there are many aspects that come from a human side of nasa as well. i would not subscribe to that kind of recommendation. >> lower the emphasis a bit. >> making a distinction between science and exploration, nasa is more than just a science agency, it is an
attention. not just local people, but the federal government. they would write letters and nobody would pay any attention. the civil rights commission decided they would see what they had to say and they have the power to subpoena anyone. eisenhower said the reason why you want to get it passed by congress and said it issuing executive orders is because my attorney general tells me that's the only way they can subpoena anybody. given what the problems are cumbersome people may not want to come to testify. so the commission's most important power was subpoena and they went in the south of october with a place to see what the problems were and they made recommendations that are controversial, they seem to make sense. so after the then there for a while, it was clear they needed to be reauthorized and continue to work on these issues. the whole civil rights movement started to heat up. it was clear there was a need. then the commission spent the next few years figuring out what to recommend to the government to bring to fruition what these people are protesting about in the streets. another is
,000 a year would pay an extra two grand or so to the government. gregg: the big question, do lawmakers hope to get anything out of the last minute fiscal cliff talks or is it just for show? democratic congressman chris van hollen is the ranking member of the house budget committee. he will be joining us live coming up in the next hour what he really thinks is going on. patti ann: well the u.s. economy meanwhile could suffer yet another major blow. looming strikes at ports from next sass to boston are threatening to put thousands of americans out of work. with potential losses for u.s. businesses ranging in the billions. >> the port of baltimore is one of maryland's largest economic generators. any type of work action that may result in a suspension or stoppage of work would have an adverse effect. >> we handle more cars, we handle more farm and construction equipment than any other u.s. port. patti ann: we're learning that adverse effect could take a toll on the economy. fox business network's stuart varney has more for us on that this morning. good morning, stu. >> good morning, patti ann.
serve to, "embarrass the administration, destroy the energy of government, and substitute the pleasure, caprice or artifices of an insignificant, turbulent, or corrupt junta to the regular deliberations and decisions of a respectable majority." good writer, that hamilton. but in recent years, the senate has been remade into a super majority constitution. disturb institution. you need 60 votes to get almost anything done. between 2009 and 2010, we had more filibusters than we had in the '50s, '60s, and '70s combined. and they're not filibusters like we think of them, where the senators go to the floor and debate an issue until they keel over from exhaustion. they're just obstruction. if you watch a filibuster today, it doesn't look like anything. it's the blue screen on c-span, the one with the classical music playing over it. you don't tune in to here an intense minority demand a great debate on the issue of the day. you tune in to hear a string quartet. senator jeff merkley, a democrat from oregon is trying to change that. he's got a proposal to force talking filibusters in the senate
think that most americans are members of the tea party principally. we believe in limited government. we believe in lower taxes. we believe in keeping the government out of your pockets. if you believe in freekts, -- free markets, those are the basic tenets of the tea party. i would hope we all believe in that. that would be a decisive yes. >> \[inaudible] >> you look at his scorecard with the heritage action. he was a 98 and i was closing in on i think it was a 090. there was a couple that separated us, maybe some of the more well-known votes. other than that, i'm not quite sure where we disagree. i would think philosophically we're on the same page and hopefully we'll continue to work together. i look forward to hearing more from the senator. >> last question. >> \[inaudible] >> that's a great question. you know, i think if john was here with me today he would say, tim, don't forget, it's not about growing up in life, it's about moving forward. and we define that differently. some see the senate as a move up, and i certainly do as well in a way. but i'm hoping that the message that the
this point, rahm emanuel i say the republican party steeply provided to turn this small government land and no government land. there is a truth that not far. i am told we are now at our time. i want mickey to come back with a few closing comments. a part of this but that hasn't gotten as much attention in season mention that i like the bromides we should ignore chapter, which i would reach of the political system will collect no, no. third party to the, no. budget amendment say no. term limits they say no and public financing of elections no. but then i have a whole bunch of things they say yes to and i propose we have an election between the shadow congress and the current congress and then we can see who wins. so let me invite everybody to do closing comments. >> just going down a couple of these. does this represent the republican party as a whole. as citizens just said no, but it does represent is who vote in primaries. so it's a matter of you can't he on the ballot. every state in the united states has a sore looser law from which means if you cluster primary come you can't appear
is that we celebrate. so, 225 years ago, let's say august, 1787, self-government exists almost nowhere on the planet outside of the new world. you have a few sheep and herders in switzerland before there were swiss banks. [laughter] and holland in the netherlands are in the process of losing self-government and england has the house of commons but also has the house of lords and a hereditary king and so, you look back -- so it's a vast multitude on the planet but no self-government in russia, and china and india and africa, most of europe. you look back through the previous millennia and you have democracy and self-government existing in very few tiny city states, athens because they can't defend themselves militarily and even when it did exist people would speak the same language and worship the same god, the same climate and culture, a very small little area. that is all of world history. and you look today, democracy is half the planet. if you asked me what changed, what was the hinge of all of that i think i would say the word we the people. 225 years ago the hinge of world history
and the republicans in future negotiations. and raised a question of whether anyone can get a governing majority in the house of representatives when it comes to the budget. those are really serious matters. now it does go to the senate where harry reid and mcconnell can try to come to some, you know, functional su render for republicans and kick the cannon a lot of other issues and see if that can pass in the next ten days am buts that still has to pass the house. and so i think the chances of backing off of the cliff are higher than they ever have been. >> you know, i listened to some of these recalcitrant house republicans today, mark. and they were saying, i was to the going to vote for a tax increase when my constituent was never have gone along with that. >> well, i think there are two realities, here, judy. first of all there's a lot of republicans, more than a few democrats who are terrified of one thing, that's being primary, primary opponent without going to run on your right if you are a republican. on your left if you are a democrat. it's really become a problem for republicans. beca
the government to do nothing about spending? are you happy with obamacare? most would say no, but in the end the choice was between a president who said things aren't great, but i'm still going to try to make them better and a guy he painted as not having a plan and not identifying with the average wants and needs of middle class americans and in the end, people decided to stick with the devil they knew rather than the one they didn't. >> paul: so the election, the republican defeat was big, but it wasn't overwhelming in a sense of repudiation, kim, as far as a republican platform and their agenda? >> no, i think the reason, look, this country had the opportunity in this election to once again hand completely controlled government to democrats. everyone in the house was up for reelection and yet, they continued to give republicans, majority there. they liked divided government and i think you've got to look to the number of states that have elected very conservative governors who are doing the exact opposite of what barack obama is doing at the federal level. >> dan, there are some real impl
a government where the citizens were unarmed and the government was so powerful it could kill people. it is not just for hunting. it is for personal protection from foreigners that might come in. it could be terrorists or our own government turning on us. we always think we are protected because we have the freedom but just like reagan and some of them have said, we are always one step away from losing those freedoms. that is one thing to be said. the other thing is that i believe the entertainment industry is a lot to blame in many ways. we have the violent video games, first person shooters, that desensitize the kids and adults. . host: that goes to the freedom of speech of the american constitution. how do you think congress should deal with the entertainment industry, video games, and the arguments that we will hear from supporters of the entertainment industry saying this might infringe on the first amendment? caller: there is a first amendment right but there is personal responsibility and a moral responsibility. all we are putting out there is sex and violence. the sex is a bl
the world. look at japan and europe. the japanese government is the glaring war on japanese citizens. it will create inflation. if the japanese citizens start to dump their bonds, they have been a bigger part then japan recently. that is a big problem for us. their euro has been quietly depreciating. if that goes out, that is a much bigger fiscal cliff. if the buyers of treasuries become sellers. liz: there are a lot of "if" in your discussion. the bond markets are still pretty -- nothing from the bottom vigilantes yet. you were a clinton advisor. you saw in the mid- 90s bond yields really spike higher. that is the issue. if we see the economy healing, bond yields could go up. investors say, wait a second, why invest for bond. >> that is the key issue. we have not seen interest rates spike for a simple reason. nobody has confidence in the economy. nobody believes we will have robust economic growth. we could be heading towards a recession. especially given the disappointing christmas sales. i am frankly skeptical about what will happen with our economy either way. i think we will go
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at best. it's not a lot of enthusiasm on capitol hill for the idea of the federal government stepping in and endorsing the idea of all schools having armed police officers. never mind funding it. listen to a couple of senators, starting with a republican. >> we had an armed guard in columbine. we had an assault ban. none of it worked. we're talking about preventing mass murder from nontraditional criminals. people who are not traditional criminals, who are not wired right for some reason. >> since we passed the brady law, the assaults are down. we need to keep working on this, and there are lots of different solutions. >> just because the republicans may not be running to this idea that the nra put forward does not mean that they are going to support the first piece of legislation we're going to see in the new congress on this issue, which is a bill to reinstate the assault weapons ban. and most importantly, carol, it's not just the republicans who might be skittish on that. it's also a fair number of moderate democrats who are up for re-election in the next cycle, 2014, who are from
the finger on the thing that we are missing when we taub abolk this, because we act as if congress governs at a body with national interests and held accountable to national constituencies, but no, if it is game theory, each one of them is facing a different payoff structure in their own home constituen constituency. >> and it is skewed. first of all the tea party a minority, but the way that the republicans control the state governmentships and the state legislators, they can shift districts to ensure republican majority in congress which is not real in terms of who the american people are. and that is pa rt of the problem we are facing is that they can play the games, because what is back home is not back home except for the twist they want to put on it. >> and this is the critical issue of the 2010 midterms and in a certain way all elections matter, but really they do matter, because they redrew the districts in such a way that make them relatively safe. so even if they make the bad deal, they may open the case that says you are re-elected in 2014. >> that is why you see bay snor who th
government works and the ins and outs of capitol hill. >> cspan, created by america's cable companies in 1979, brought to you as a public service by your television provider. >> they really started to get word in the summer and fall of 1774. the british admiral and generals and diplomats were reporting to the crown that the, less -- that the colonists were sending ships ever where to get muskets and can't after the british had sent more troops to boston after the boston tea party and the so- called coercive acts and it is clear that the colonists were pulling together ammunition. maybe they did not intend to use it but that was a big debate. the king prohibited british ships from taking ammunition and everything to the colonies are less it was officially sanctioned. they were very alert to this. as soon as the colony's found out about the order prohibiting ammunition and munitions from being sent to the colonies, in new hampshire and then rhode island, colonist patriots over the monitions so everyone knew what was coming in the winter of 7074-1775. >> this brighter suggests that 1775 was a cr
government founded in natural rights. wilson was the opposite in his view. a little bit of a man involved subject. the movement started with president wilson and basically 100 years ago. george will analyze it in his lecture at the differences between the declaration of independence upon which thomas jefferson based the fundamental rights, the natural rights as announced in the declaration of independence. host: what is it about mr. will that makes him a hero to you? caller: he has consistently for decades espoused in billion form. fo brilliant writing he is a conservative in the truest sense of the word. he made clear the distinction between what happened in the french revolution and the glorious revolution that was parked of the continental socialism but will was exported to america as a result of the glorious revolution in britain. host: is there a call it that stands out that makes a person a hero to you politically? caller: he is not a hero because he has a high degree of native intelligence. he exercises that intelligence in what i think is a productive and true way of espousing con
at the spending cuts, 25% of gdp comes from government spending, historically it's 20 it is. if there's a cut in government spending, where is the lift coming from, consumers, investment? therefore, the u.s. economy, we're on fragile ground right now. >> short term, sarge, this market held hostage minute by minute by the developments out of washington. >> yeah, sure, if we don't see any kind of compromise whatsoever, you'll see this s&p 500 trading in the 1360s next week. i think you'll get a short-term deal, address some of the issues, not really solve anything, kick the can down the road much like they do in europe and get your mild positive reaction going into the jobs data on friday. >> do you think we get a definitive move in this market one way or the other with some announcement out of washington, or is this market just so tired of all of the developments there? what do you think? >> well, there's still a risk-on trend, and if they kick the can down the road or actually come to some kind of compromise, that trend is intact, and you'll see going into the first few months of the year i b
this morning it would be similar to the way that government protects air travelers from terrorists. >> there was intense debate on airplanes, guns have no place. yet we have a federal air marshal program i helped to oversee which provided a deterrent, increased the safety of the airlines and it's not like an armed camp when you go on the airlines. >> reporter: mark warner has an "a" rating but made it clear he disagrees with the idea and he thinks multiple steps must be taken to avoid mass murder. >> if my memory is correct there was an armed individual at columbine years ago and it didn't prevent that tragedy. i think we need a comprehensive approach. i think looks at protecting our schools and look at high volume magazines that can fire off so many rounds. >> reporter: the ceo said banning those high capacity magazines won't make any difference to make people safer. >> heather: peter, thank you. >> gregg: and a fox news extreme weather alert. two powerful winter storms lashing opposite ends of the country. one dumping rain in the west and the other raising hopes for a bit of a wh
, hpq with 29,000, even the u.s. government with 31,000 jobs lost. what's going on here? and which stocks do you buy? does it help? > > go ahead. > > andrew's philosophy is - and i am going to speak for him - that he thinks it's a cost- cutting measure and it's good for the stock- > > of course. any time you cut costs, you cut jobs, the stock goes up. look at bank of america. the second thing- > > j.c. penney- > > j.c. penney?! they're going to zero. > > exactly! so that is not going to help their game. > > they have a bad business model. that is why they're going out of the game. > > i believe it is going to help one stock: hewlett-packard. it's a stock that- > > hewlett-packard?! > > -long been forgotten about- > > put it in the basket with dell, j.c. penney- > > put it in the basket with rim and yahoo, which have had big, big jumps. it has value, it's a name, it just needs to reinvent itself- > > what's their product they sell? > round 3) the fiscal fiasco - is this fiscal cliff a real issue for the market jan 1st? > > no. the answer is no. the market doesn't care. this is the m
the budget because it all starts with that for our economy, for the state of our state government, for our families. and then making surat we are growing. in my view, that means that we are attracting innovative businesses here, helping innovative businesses grow here, addressing the skill gap we have in the state by making sure we have the right kind of k-12 community college, university system and giving e right kind of assistance, especially to our small businesses in areas of trade. so that is what i want to focus on. and also just, again, making sure that all new hampshire citizens feel that they have an opportunity to participate, contribute what they have to offer. there's so much that all of the granite state citizens have and a lot of people of talent and energy. we need everybody to participate. if that is how we can proceed, i think we will be better off two years from now. >> i would echo that. my ultimate goal is equal opportunity for all and part of that is general -- is gender- related. i want to give out a shout out to private employers who can do better. i was very fortuna
government coercion. this has been a practice at west point since george washington. >> i'm absolutely in favor of cadets not having to go under government coercion to pray. you don't have to pray. in fact, 1972, there was a court ruling saying that cadets were not-- should not be required to attend religious services, that's a very good court decision. a very different thing to say however, that no one is allowed to pray publicly at an event there at west point. i use today lead a bible study at west point. i know how religious so many of those cadets are and for them not to be able to express that or leadership able to express that, thanksgiving or christmas before meals. what we're doing is we're taking out all religious expression from the public square, that's the goal of these activist atheist groups, what they're trying to get at. you know, kelly and alisyn, i was happily shocked and blessed after the newtown, connecticut tragedy president obama was there present and we had all the different religious leaders in a public school expressing their faith in a time of tragedy, are we
-home pay shrinks and the government spending gets slashed if elected officials cannot figure out a way to get compromised, all in the hanlds of the six leaders. this afternoon the president, vice president biden, senate majority leader harry reid, house minority leader nancy pelosi, all on the democratic side, mitch mcconnell representing the republicans, white house correspondent brianna keilar, the house doesn't return to work until sunday so they'll work on a framework hopefully could get voted on sunday evening we might have a deal before monday. am i being ridiculous? >> reporter: maybe not sunday evening, maybe on monday, that's the best case scenario but ali, i will tell you talking to sources this morning, even though technically it is possible for there to be a deal, it seems increasingly unlikely. i'm hearing a real lack of confidence that we don't go over the fiscal cliff and i think the expectation is that perhaps we go over it for a day or two, and some are rationalizing that you can go over it maybe for a day or two, and it's still going to be okay, that it's something th
government for failing to create a national database of the mentally ill and failing to enforce existing gun laws and accused the news media of sensationalizing the most horrific crimes. >> how many more copy cats are waiting in the wings for their moment of fame? from a national media machine that rewards them with wall-to- wall attention. >> reporter: democratic senator dianne feinstein of california, a long time leader in gun control, called the n.r.a.'s plan a distraction that's only intended to delay action by congress. >> should we have a conversation about school security? yes. should we have a conversation about mental illness and the culture of violence? yes. but we can't ignore the common denominator in all of these deadly massacres: access, easy access to killing machines. >> reporter: the fact is, scott, that one-third of america's public schools already have armed security and it's interesting to note an armed deputy sheriff was assigned to columbine high school near denver in 1999 but failed to stop that attack that killed 13. >> pelley: chip, thank you very much. of course, th
and government spending cuts. some fear the meet as good just for show, however a big development with the senate minority leader. he spoke directly with the president for the first time in negotiations. >> i told the president we would be happy to look at whatever he proposes but the truth is we're coming up against a hard dead line here and as i said, this is a conversation we should have had months ago. >> the main sticking point is who should pay more in taxes. democrats want a hike on households making more than $400,000 a year and republican aids say their leaders might get on board with that offer. >>> meanwhile if they aren't able to avoid the fiscal cliff people here in alabama will be especially hard hit. that's because prop 30 will soon mean higher sales taxes and higher income taxes on the state's top earners, the fiscal cliff would add to that hitting all american with higher taxes. >> i don't know if there's a word to describe how upset the public is going to be. nobody's going to be happy to see that happen. >> if taxes go up on everybody it's not going to be a happy time but i thi
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